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"Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS
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166p1
2021-11-18 05:52:03 UTC
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-10209349/Passwords-123456-password-popular.html

Will we EVER learn? '123456' and 'password' are still among the
most popular passwords in the world – while many users continue
to use their own name, report reveals

The annual NordPass Most Common Passwords report revealed common
trends. It found that people are still using very simple and easy
to guess passwords including '123456', 'password' and 'qwerty'
which can be cracked in a second. There were local and gender
differences including sports teams as passwords.

. . . .

SysAdmin ??? Well THIS is what you're up against - and
it's NOT going to change.

Users would rather live with unknown risks than suffer
with passwords and other procedures that are impossible
to remember or a pain to cope with. They WILL find a
way around difficult edicts - or they'll quit and take
all their job experience with them.

But, when it goes bad, the SysAdmins get the blame.

Look, cybercommerce/cyberbanking SOUNDED great. But
people are NOT going to cope with "dffNs%h##fj3d7xuz"
passwords plus text-messages on smartphones they may
not even own plus biometrics that won't recognize
you if you grew a beard or cut your thumb or dropped
20 pounds plus inscruitable captchas. And WHY don't
you know the name of your maiden aunts 3rd cousin's
favorite pet gerbil ???!!!

Nobody is going to put up with such shit.

Sorry, but "convenient" was one of the main drives
behind online commerce/banking. Now they feel they
have to make it as INconvenient as possible just to
stay half a step ahead of cyberCRIME. This is NOT
working out.

I'll tell you the solution ... and you won't like it ...
physically go TO your bank and do business with bits
of PAPER in front of people there who KNOW your face.
SHOP online, but print the order form, fill it out
in ink, and physically MAIL it to the seller. Might
not hurt to include a PAPER *CHECK* inside to cover
the purchase - again something tangible, something
they'll at least have to scan. Use a Sharpie pen
to write the check too - something that can't be
washed out.

Oh, and you can go to physical STORES ... they have
all kinds of interesting things on big rows of
shelves ... and there's a thing called "cash" you
can use to buy those fascinating items.

This 1950-ish approach WILL thwart crime. Because
of human nature, NOTHING will thwart it using
todays methods. 'Convenient' for you ? PARADISE
for the cybercriminals and cyberterrorists.

This is the horrible bitter Truth, and you KNOW it.

SysAdmin ? Contract ? Slip "NOT responsible for events
resulting from users employing poor passwords/technique"
in there. If they won't accept that - QUIT - you'll be
saving yourself endless trouble. Put them on the blacklist
at all the job-search sites.
The Natural Philosopher
2021-11-18 08:03:51 UTC
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Post by 166p1
Oh, and you can go to physical STORES ... they have
all kinds of interesting things on big rows of
shelves ... and there's a thing called "cash" you
can use to buy those fascinating items.
This 1950-ish approach WILL thwart crime. Because
of human nature, NOTHING will thwart it using
todays methods. 'Convenient' for you ? PARADISE
for the cybercriminals and cyberterrorists.
Carry cash around? and get short changed and get mugged, like we did in
the 1950s? Not to mention te retailer denying the transaction ever took
place as there is no record of it? no thanks!

It's easier to dream up passwords that are instantly memorable to you,
but unguessable by anyone else....

GimmeMyDollar$ok!
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the course of time they create for themselves a legal system that
authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it.

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Christopher Conforti
2022-02-19 04:32:46 UTC
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Not to mention te retailer denying the transaction ever took place as
there is no record of it? no thanks!
Isn't that a good thing? Because then I also have a better chance at
denying the transaction ever took place if LEOs come snooping. Far as
they know, it teleported into my garage.
Ant
2021-11-18 10:11:28 UTC
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People don't care. It will be forever. :(
Post by 166p1
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-10209349/Passwords-123456-password-popular.html
Will we EVER learn? '123456' and 'password' are still among the
most popular passwords in the world ??? while many users continue
to use their own name, report reveals
The annual NordPass Most Common Passwords report revealed common
trends. It found that people are still using very simple and easy
to guess passwords including '123456', 'password' and 'qwerty'
which can be cracked in a second. There were local and gender
differences including sports teams as passwords.
. . . .
SysAdmin ??? Well THIS is what you're up against - and
it's NOT going to change.
Users would rather live with unknown risks than suffer
with passwords and other procedures that are impossible
to remember or a pain to cope with. They WILL find a
way around difficult edicts - or they'll quit and take
all their job experience with them.
But, when it goes bad, the SysAdmins get the blame.
Look, cybercommerce/cyberbanking SOUNDED great. But
people are NOT going to cope with "dffNs%h##fj3d7xuz"
passwords plus text-messages on smartphones they may
not even own plus biometrics that won't recognize
you if you grew a beard or cut your thumb or dropped
20 pounds plus inscruitable captchas. And WHY don't
you know the name of your maiden aunts 3rd cousin's
favorite pet gerbil ???!!!
Nobody is going to put up with such shit.
Sorry, but "convenient" was one of the main drives
behind online commerce/banking. Now they feel they
have to make it as INconvenient as possible just to
stay half a step ahead of cyberCRIME. This is NOT
working out.
I'll tell you the solution ... and you won't like it ...
physically go TO your bank and do business with bits
of PAPER in front of people there who KNOW your face.
SHOP online, but print the order form, fill it out
in ink, and physically MAIL it to the seller. Might
not hurt to include a PAPER *CHECK* inside to cover
the purchase - again something tangible, something
they'll at least have to scan. Use a Sharpie pen
to write the check too - something that can't be
washed out.
Oh, and you can go to physical STORES ... they have
all kinds of interesting things on big rows of
shelves ... and there's a thing called "cash" you
can use to buy those fascinating items.
This 1950-ish approach WILL thwart crime. Because
of human nature, NOTHING will thwart it using
todays methods. 'Convenient' for you ? PARADISE
for the cybercriminals and cyberterrorists.
This is the horrible bitter Truth, and you KNOW it.
SysAdmin ? Contract ? Slip "NOT responsible for events
resulting from users employing poor passwords/technique"
in there. If they won't accept that - QUIT - you'll be
saving yourself endless trouble. Put them on the blacklist
at all the job-search sites.
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pH
2021-11-21 23:33:21 UTC
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Post by Ant
People don't care. It will be forever. :(
Post by 166p1
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-10209349/Passwords-123456-password-popular.html
Will we EVER learn? '123456' and 'password' are still among the
most popular passwords in the world ??? while many users continue
to use their own name, report reveals
The annual NordPass Most Common Passwords report revealed common
trends. It found that people are still using very simple and easy
to guess passwords including '123456', 'password' and 'qwerty'
which can be cracked in a second. There were local and gender
differences including sports teams as passwords.
. . . .
SysAdmin ??? Well THIS is what you're up against - and
it's NOT going to change.
Users would rather live with unknown risks than suffer
with passwords and other procedures that are impossible
to remember or a pain to cope with. They WILL find a
way around difficult edicts - or they'll quit and take
all their job experience with them.
But, when it goes bad, the SysAdmins get the blame.
Look, cybercommerce/cyberbanking SOUNDED great. But
people are NOT going to cope with "dffNs%h##fj3d7xuz"
passwords plus text-messages on smartphones they may
not even own plus biometrics that won't recognize
you if you grew a beard or cut your thumb or dropped
20 pounds plus inscruitable captchas. And WHY don't
you know the name of your maiden aunts 3rd cousin's
favorite pet gerbil ???!!!
Nobody is going to put up with such shit.
<snip>
Actually, writing checks and mailing them, using cash...that's
pretty much how I run my life.
Small knick-knacks on line, but no major shopping that way.

pH in Aptos
Iterator Revamps
2021-12-03 05:42:13 UTC
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Actually, writing checks and mailing them, using cash...that's pretty
much how I run my life.
Small knick-knacks on line, but no major shopping that way.
"Checks"? How quaint. I use IOU's!
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pH
2021-12-03 17:32:37 UTC
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Post by Iterator Revamps
Actually, writing checks and mailing them, using cash...that's pretty
much how I run my life.
Small knick-knacks on line, but no major shopping that way.
"Checks"? How quaint. I use IOU's!
Another excellent choice! Everything else is worth the paper it's written
on.

pH
25.BX943
2022-02-19 05:02:17 UTC
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Post by pH
Post by Iterator Revamps
Actually, writing checks and mailing them, using cash...that's pretty
much how I run my life.
Small knick-knacks on line, but no major shopping that way.
"Checks"? How quaint. I use IOU's!
Another excellent choice! Everything else is worth the paper it's written
on.
Shhhhh ! Without a paper economy we - indeed most of
the world - have no economy at all ! The illusion
MUST be maintained.

How many chickens can you deliver to pay for a pig ?

The Natural Philosopher
2021-11-18 18:03:59 UTC
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Post by 166p1
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-10209349/Passwords-123456-password-popular.html
Will we EVER learn? '123456' and 'password' are still among the
most popular passwords in the world – while many users continue
to use their own name, report reveals
"They" wont ever learn. My bet is that 123456 is still people's favorite
password in 2030.
You think people will still be able to count in 2030?
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Andreas Kohlbach
2021-11-19 01:52:39 UTC
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Post by The Natural Philosopher
"They" wont ever learn. My bet is that 123456 is still people's favorite
password in 2030.
You think people will still be able to count in 2030?
Do they today?

But I was about to add "...if mankind still exists in 2030".
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The Natural Philosopher
2021-11-19 09:00:44 UTC
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Post by The Natural Philosopher
"They" wont ever learn. My bet is that 123456 is still people's favorite
password in 2030.
You think people will still be able to count in 2030?
Do they today?
But I was about to add "...if mankind still exists in 2030".
There is a reason why some people are called 'dumb fucks'

Intelligence is not always a survival asset.
--
When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men in a society, over
the course of time they create for themselves a legal system that
authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it.

Frédéric Bastiat
Charlie Gibbs
2021-11-19 03:11:08 UTC
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Post by The Natural Philosopher
Post by 166p1
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-10209349/Passwords-123456-password-popular.html
Will we EVER learn? '123456' and 'password' are still among the
most popular passwords in the world – while many users continue
to use their own name, report reveals
"They" wont ever learn. My bet is that 123456 is still people's favorite
password in 2030.
You think people will still be able to count in 2030?
"There's an app for that."
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166p1
2021-11-28 07:01:53 UTC
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Post by Charlie Gibbs
Post by The Natural Philosopher
Post by 166p1
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-10209349/Passwords-123456-password-popular.html
Will we EVER learn? '123456' and 'password' are still among the
most popular passwords in the world – while many users continue
to use their own name, report reveals
"They" wont ever learn. My bet is that 123456 is still people's favorite
password in 2030.
You think people will still be able to count in 2030?
"There's an app for that."
And there's some truth in that cynicism ...
Marco Moock
2021-11-18 19:13:40 UTC
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Am Thu, 18 Nov 2021 00:52:03 -0500
Post by 166p1
Will we EVER learn? '123456' and 'password' are still among the
most popular passwords in the world – while many users continue
to use their own name, report reveals
No, people will not learn that. They also don't care about it.
If their accounts get hacked, they will be disabled and they can't use
the service anymore. This is the only way they learn that.
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